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There’s a tie breaker
My daughter is also going to Lane Tech, 145
My son was in Lane Tech academic center before it was great
I grew up in a bad area and worked my ass off to be able to attend college and live in the neighborhood I’m in now. I just feel like we got penalized for our hard work. We are not rich. It’s a real slap in the face, especially since my job REQUIRES me to live in Chicago
Sometimes you have to be very rich to afford to be poor.
The children just have to cope with it. The good thing is that college is a great equalizer in that hardworking students will always persevere in life regardless of the colleges they join.
Well. I think any kids can do well in any high school.
Lane is such a big school and its top students are just as bright as the top students in Payton.
It is a big deal if you already live in Chicago. If you have to move and you own a house, it might not be such a big deal to you. Your kid can go to any college by studying in a number of suburban schools. Northside doesn’t guarantee a good university. If you rent, then it is much easier to move and I would say it is a good idea to go to Northside.
testprep is not cheap but not very expensive either. Most people afford the few hundred bucks. It cost less than an iPhone. I don’t own an expensive phone. I would rather spend it on testprep. It is all about priorities.
Why wouldn’t 899 be possible?
Test counts half of the grade 450 points.
99% for math and 99% for reading.
For every drop in percentage, you get 450/198 = 2.27 point deducted.
So, other than 900, the next possible grade is 897.73.
There is no possible grades between the two scores.
The forum is free. Anyone can create an account. How this makes anyone privileged is beyond me.
Tier system is utter stupidity. I have a few bucks more than you do doesn’t give my children any advantage. They still go to public schools eating free school lunches. I still drive an 18 year old car. I still live paycheck to paycheck. How does this make my children more privileged?
The point is that my rich neighbor doesn’t make me rich. If I were rich, I would have sent my children to private schools like my neighbors did instead of fighting over the precious few seats in public schools.
BTW, my rich neighbor can also afford to put their children in their 4th home in tier 3.
I think so.
The percentile score should make sense only if the # of students with all 99% in all subcategories will be less than the # of seats available to Payton.
If Payton admits 300 each year, the max # of seats given to rank and tier 4 would be (30% + 23%) * 300 = 159.
The question is, of course, how many test takers have four 99% and ranked Payton first.
You will be surprised by how many students don’t want to go to Payton.
Welcome the least privileged group. Oh well. Talking about being discriminated against when it comes to schools, this is nothing compared to college admission. I told my son long ago that he is in the most discriminated group when it comes to college admission. He has to be the very best and still has unparallel quality in a speciality field to go to top schools. But still undergraduate education is not that important. So, even the nearby state school is very good choice. The point is that the tier system is not that big a deal. If one can’t overcome this, it really hard to face reality later.
forget it.
CPS and Tier system are not going to change. CPS uses census data and a formula to come up with Tier levels. It is an approximation. The best bet is to encourage your child to study hard and don’t count on Tiers.
If you go by last year’s score, this won’t cut it because reading is the first tie breaker for ELA.
But Payton is not as great as people makes it to be.
GoCPS has some information on the schools that offer academic centers.
I only consider Lane Tech since others like Whitney Young is just too far a drive. Academic center doesn’t offer bus (or a bus schedule that can actually work). So, you have to drive your kids to school every day for at least 2 years. It is no picnic I tell you.
Getting into Lane is slightly easier than getting into Whitney but all As in school is assumed and the entrance exam has to score fairly high. For Tier 4 in Lane, for example, last year, the min test score must be higher than 143 out of 150.
For test preparation, I suggest spending a few hundred dollars in a test prep center like selective test prep. They use almost the same materials every year with some updates. Their teachers are quite nice. The test prep classes are weekly that lasts 6 weeks I think. It gives a structure to children in test preparation. I wouldn’t have a clue on how to help my children do well in the test without classes like selective prep. There are other preps but I have no experience with them.
As to how accurate test prep materials are, I think it is mix bag. Certain things that emphasized in test prep are not tested at all but it does offer a broad ranged materials so that it doesn’t miss something.
Test is the gifted school test.
Tie breakers for the 900 point students are based on the percentile scores of the 4 test components but still not the raw scores. We will never know the raw scores.
