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PetraGuest
I’ve tried starting a new thread with this information several times but kept getting a “404 page not found” error, so I’m going to try to break the links up into separate posts. Hopefully it works!
<span style=”font-weight: 400;”>I was recently able to obtain SEES offer/score data for the past three years via a FOIA request — if you’d like to view the data I received for yourself, I’m including a few links here:</span>
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PetraGuest
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<li style=”font-weight: 400;” aria-level=”1″><span style=”font-weight: 400;”>All second round (and later) offer scores for each school and tier</span><span style=”font-weight: 400;”> (scores lower than the R1 cut score are highlighted in green; scores higher than the R1 cut score are highlighted in red) — I only have 2021 data included at the moment, but I will add 2020 & 2019 soon!</span>
<li style=”font-weight: 400;” aria-level=”1″><span style=”font-weight: 400;”>A master spreadsheet of the data I received</span><span style=”font-weight: 400;”> — I’ve edited it slightly for readability & to calculate some averages (</span><b>note:</b><span style=”font-weight: 400;”> school names were not included in the data CPS provided, but it was easy to see that the data was sorted by school, and I am 100% certain that my assumption that it is sorted alphabetically is correct)</span><span style=”font-weight: 400;”>I hope you all find this information helpful! Let me know if you notice any issues with my math (I definitely may have made some typos and/or transposed some numbers). :)</span>
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PritzkerMomGuest
Thank you for posting this – any idea why there are high scores out there in rounds 3 or 4. Wouldn’t those folks have accepted an earlier offer?
Also, while making a decision last year, the office told me that they go by the next highest score in round 2, and tiers don’t matter, but it looks like there is something going on with replacing kids in certain tiers if they decline offers? eg. Bell last year. If there was a <span data-sheets-value=”{"1":3,"3":126}” data-sheets-userformat=”{"2":14529,"3":{"1":0,"3":1},"9":1,"10":1,"14":{"1":3,"3":1},"15":"Calibri","16":11}”>126 in tier 2 offered in round 2, why would there be a 142 tier 4 out there for round 3? Did the office give us incorrect information?</span>
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PetraGuest
During one of the “Accepting/Declining Offers” webinars, I asked a question that was something like, “I know Tiers are taken into account when Round 1 offers are made, but I’ve heard that in later rounds they become irrelevant. In which round does Tier stop being used?”
Their response (which they didn’t have right off the bat, they had to go check with someone who wasn’t on the call) implied that Tier would be part of the calculation in every round, but I’m sure that hasn’t been the case in the past. Based on the data in the spreadsheets, I’m reasonably certain that Tier stops mattering in Round 3.
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Trice WilliamsGuest
This is incredible!!!! Thank you so much
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cbGuest
Wow, this is really amazing. Thanks so much for sharing it!
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cbGuest
Any chance you have any 1st grade offer data? The kindergarten data was incredibly useful, though I’m trying to gauge the process for an entering 1st grader.
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another parentGuest
1st grade and beyond is entirely different because most* schools aren’t taking full classes, just replacing spots. However I think there is some positivity if your kid has a decent score – tier is not a factor, many people stop testing after Kinder and stay where they are or flee to the ‘burbs, and even people who test decline offers because they don’t want to move their kids.
These feelings seem to be magnified the further you go up in grade level too, but then at certain schools, they increase class sizes from 28 to 30-something, and so they’ll actually take 4 or more kids in one grade for that next year. Never give up, ha!
*Beaubien RGC starts at 1st grade and believe since they’re selecting a whole class at that time, tier does come into play. Forum responses show acceptance scores somewhere around 115 and above, depending on tier.
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PetraGuest
Sorry, I don’t have any 1st grade data! In addition to Beaubien, I believe Keller’s entry year is also 1st grade, but my understanding is that other schools generally have few spots to fill, so open spots generally go to 99/99s or scores in the 150s. There might be an exception for schools that didn’t fill an entire class in their entry year — Morton, for example.
If you’d like to request 1st grade data from CPS yourself, you can do so here. My request took them about 2 months to complete, but about six hours before they finally sent me the information I requested, I messaged them requesting a status update and mentioned previously fulfilled requests from the archive that were nearly identical to mine, which may have made it easier for them to complete my request (rather that needing to construct a whole new response just for me). In your case, the information you’re interested in is probably very similar to Request Number N009470-040821 (though that request is from about a year ago and didn’t include 2021 data).
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cbGuest
Thank you, that is really helpful. If I get as far as requesting and receiving data, I will also share here.
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Guest2018Guest
Maybe this information isn’t public – but any idea if elementary schools post what high schools their students got into? We are still only in kinder – so obviously this will change esp with new tier rules, but hoping that we have a few options when elementary schools come out and then we can pick based on their middle school programs. Are there “feeder” schools that go to Walter Payton for example?
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cps_lifeParticipant
Are there “feeder” schools that go to Walter Payton for example?
Since admission to SEHS is based on test scores, I don’t think there is such a concept as ‘feeder’ school. Some schools may have higher percentage of children going to SEHS than others but it is hard to tell how big a role the elementary school really has.
I know some elementary schools actively prepare their 8th graders for the admission test, which resulted in better performance. Maybe you should find out these schools. I also know academic centers do not help students prepare the admission test at all.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by cps_life.
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SLParentGuest
Usually all the best classical and RGCs take most seats at Payton. AC students tend to stay their AC for HS.
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