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How are your kids preparing for the upcoming PreAct 9?
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As a student, I am using books and tutoring
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My kid is using books to study for the preAct
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Good strategy, I feel like everyone should be pretty prepared by now so I’m just cramming last minute
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Does anyone know when the Preact 9 results are being released? I’ve heard some say that the scores come out in the 9th, but recently I’ve heard that they get released about 2 weeks after the test.
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CPS says families should receive an ACT ID and instructions to access scores within two weeks of testing. Scores will also be in GoCPS before November 13.
How did you feel about the test?
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Scores released today!
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Where did you get the score? We haven’t seen ours.
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Where did you get the score? We haven’t seen ours.
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Got my score today – 27…hope that’s enough! How did everyone do?
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I know we won’t know exact cut-off scores for any individual schools but is there some estimation of how the pre-ACT relates to the scores of the previous test?
It seems like the new test will allow for more differentiation at the top?
Curious how a 30 composite holds up.
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curious what tier you’re in?
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From https://www.cps.edu/gocps/high-school/apply/hsat-test/
Point Total Calculations
Similar to prior cycles, the GoCPS application scoring system considers the CPS HSAT / PreACT 9 Secure (50% of the total) and seventh-grade grades for core subjects (50%of the total). The weights for the components are established by using a total of 640 points, with each 50% element worth 320 points. Details below:HSAT points are determined by multiplying the PreACT 9 Secure Composite Score by 10, with a maximum score of 320. The possible PreACT 9 Secure scores are 1 through 32 depending on test performance. The composite score is made up of the English, Reading, and Math sections of the PreACT 9 Secure.
Grade points are calculated by multiplying a student’s final 7th grade GPA by 80. With a maximum possible point total of 320 (4.0 X 80 = 320)
CPS HS Scoring Rubric https://cdn.bfldr.com/MXCD21SV/at/sg5pkrxvkq4t4cwvb33cgq/GoCPS_HS_Program_Scoring_Rubric_EN.pdf
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I understand how the rubric works but very curious how the scores will shake out. A 99% percentile on the old HSAT was compared to other CPS students. A 32 on the pre-ACT is a much higher bar than that.
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Does anyone know how a “tiebreaker” works? Let’s say, for example, 500 Tier 4 kids want to go to Lane and all of them have a perfect 640 total scores. Let’s say Lane only takes 250 Tier 4 kids per year. How do they choose who gets an offer? Lottery? Do they look at individual scores on Math/Reading/etc?
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This is the tiebreaker info from the pdf posted above.
Selective Enrollment High Schools
For all selective enrollment programs, tiebreaker will be run in the following order:
● HSAT Math Score
● HSAT Reading Score
● Random Computerized Lottery
First the HSAT Math scores will be looked at, if the HSAT Math scores are identical for students,
then HSAT Reading scores will be looked at, if the HSAT Reading scores are the same, a random
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Wondering if there’s potential for a lot more tied scores this year.
Since the PreACT 9 Secure composite is a whole number (1–32), multiplied by 10, and a 4.0 GPA earns 320 points, every student with straight As will have a total score in increments of 10 (560, 570, 580, 590, etc.). There won’t be scores like 581 or 583 among students with a 4.0 GPA.
Considering that many applicants to selective enrollment schools likely have straight As, couldn’t this create large groups of students with identical scores?
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Not necessarily, There is only a tie if the two students get the same composite score and they also are tied on both the math and reading sub-scores. It might be a little harder to interpret cut-scores, because if you know the cut is 570, you know you need at least 25 composite, but you might not know if you need a 27 on math to get in or if you can get in with a 23 on the math.
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For what it’s worth, my daughter is at the Whitney Young AC and amongst her friends, she is reporting the following scores: 30, 31, 32, 27, 27, 30, 31, 30.
She is not looking to transfer to Payton but a handful are, I think the issue of identical scores will be significant. Many (most) students have straight As from 7th grade, and it would seem there will be quite a lot of 30s. I just believe this because I know how many smart kids there were in her class from her elementary school (a selective enrollment one) that didn’t go to an AC and are now looking to go to Payton (As well as her AC friends). I wonder what the cutoffs will look like …Smart cookie the kid (a girl) who got a 32!
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Adding on to this, my son also reported “several” 30s amongst friends as well as 27, 28, 29, and two 32s (both boys, so different students from the one listed above – the other scores could potentially have overlap as it’s the same school). He is not planning to transfer either, but we have many friends going through the process from other schools and are following the numbers closely.
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Wow, those are impressive scores! Congratulations to your daughter! Just curious-how did she and her friends prepare? Did they study on their own or work with test prep company?
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anyone from not a academic center got the scores yet? I’m hoping close to perfect scores are not the norm.
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seriously, lets hear about some normal scores from kids that go to neighborhood schools.
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The 7th grade GPA is being multiplied by 80 to get the other half of the rubric from above, so know that several “A” students can have GPA’s between 3.50 to 4.00. Student GPA’s are listed on their Enrollwise student account, up to 2 decimal places, so there will be variations on the GPA number for students across the 4 subject areas for the year for math, reading, science and social studies.
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I thought CPS was using unweighted GPA? At least that’s what it looks like on Enrollwise.
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Yes would love to see shared scores from others.
We are not in AC.Composite score: 30
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I came across this thread looking to see if anyone has been notified about the scores. I assume it would be posted in the goCPS application where the grades are, but I haven’t seen any update. My son got a 22 on his practice before we started tutoring and studying, so I hope it helped him. Hopefully we get updates soon.
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Composite score 31
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North side school, straight a student and her composite is freaking 15! 🙁 But good info for those of you asking about neighborhood schools…
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32 composite
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Neighborhood school – 26 composite (29 math tiebreaker)
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I think there might be a way to tie current PACT9 test scores back to cutoff scores under the old HSAT test to glean some insights about what cutoff scores are likely to look like this year.
Here’s my logic:
For the top 5 SEHS (Payton, Northside, Young, Jones and Lane), I think we can safely assume that almost all admitted students (regardless of tier) scored a perfect 4.0 on their 7th grade grades, and got 450/900 points under the old scoring rubric from grades alone. This means that we can simply subtract 450 from the reported minimum cutoff scores in order to figure out what the cutoff was for the test-only portion of the overall score. Using Whitney Young as an example, last year’s minimum cutoff scores were:
Tier 4: 880 (Implied 430 test-only cutoff score)
Tier 3: 861 (Implied 411 test-only cutoff score)
Tier 2: 832 (Implied 382 test-only cutoff score)
Tier 1: 807 (Implied 357 test-only cutoff score)Since test scores in the OLD CPS rubric were determined by PERCENTILE ranking (scores were curved) rather than absolute score on the test (unlike the NEW CPS rubric where composite score is multiplied by 10), the implied minimum cutoff percentile scores for Whitney Young last year were:
Tier 4: 96% (430/450)
Tier 3: 91% (411/450)
Tier 2: 85% (382/450)
Tier 1: 79% (357/450)This information is useful because alongside the composite PACT9 score, ACT also released the PERCENTILE score (under the ‘How do I compare’ link on the test results page), so one can directly compare the percentile corresponding to one’s PACT9 composite score this year to the minimum percentile required for each school and tier last year.
Now this isn’t a perfect comparison since:
1. The PACT9 secure information provided by ACT is based on nationwide testing, and I’m implicitly assuming that Chicago students are similar to the nationwide average;
2. I’m also assuming that students perform on the PACT9 and the old HSAT at roughly similar levels (meaning a student who would have been 90th percentile on the old test, would also score in the 90th percentile on the PACT9), which isn’t necessarily the case; and
3. PACT9 percentile data is based on attempts by 9th graders (but in Chicago, it was 8th graders who took the test), which means the Chicago percentiles should probably come in a bit higher than their nationwide counterparts for the same composite score, but then again, many Chicago 8th graders deliberately prepared for the test (knowing the stakes involved), so possibly outperformed nationwide 9th graders who might have ‘phoned it in’, etc. tough to say
But nonetheless, its a place to start. So if, for e.g. you live in Tier 4, and ACT is telling you that your PACT9 composite score translated to a 97th PERCENTILE, then you may have a decent shot at getting into Whitney Young, but probably not at Payton, etc., etc.
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