Spring 2020 SEES Kindergarten Results

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    • #10771 Reply

      SEES 2020-2021 results are just out for us.

      We are Tier 4, our scores were 99/98 and we are offered Skinner North which is  our first choice in Round 1. Going to accept. Just posting if it helps future parents.

    • #10774 Reply

      Selective enrollment 2020-2021 results


      Offered Skinner North first choice.

      Here to see what ppl think about Skinner North.

    • #10775 Reply

      We are in Tier 4 , my son received 99/99 and a score of 150. We received an offer for Skinner North and Disney Magnet Choice school.

    • #10780 Reply

      Tier 4 Kindergarten

      1st choice Skinner North accepted

      R99 M96

    • #10785 Reply

      Tier 4 Kindergarten.



      RGC: 105

      Had absolutely no illusion that he would get in anywhere because we did not prepare, but I am happy that he did even that well on the classical test. Obviously, RGC he bombed. We got an offer to Disney Magnet, which we will likely not take as our neighborhood school is Nettelhorst, and, in my opinion, a better school than Disney. Disappointed we are 99 on the waitlist at Hawthorne. Would have loved a better spot there!

    • #10789 Reply

      Tier 4

      Reading 99 Math 90 RGC 119

      Test time 33 minutes

      Accepted to 2nd choice Poe Classical School.  1st choice was Lenart RGC


      • #10991 Reply

        Hey there. Just accepted to offer from Poe as well. If you don’t mind me asking, do you reside on the south side? Im trying to get information on the area of the school.

    • #10792 Reply

      rgc score 143   tier 4 Kindergarten

      offered Pritzker (3rd choice)

    • #10793 Reply

      Tier 4 Kindergarten

      RGC score: 136

      No offers for Bell, Pritzker, or McPherson

    • #10794 Reply

      BTW– We did zero prep.  Do people really try to prepare their kindergarteners for this test? Maybe we would’ve gotten in if we had, but it feels weird to me to prep a 5 year old for a test. It’s supposed to be natural ability anyway, no?

      • #10897 Reply

        Based on what I have read online, people do prep their kids which I think partially explains the lack of diversity in some of these schools (e.g., imagine a low-income single mom finding the resources to prep their otherwise gifted child… not happening). Since the exams are supposedly a big secret, all I did was introduce my child to simple puzzles (which she loves) but did not pay for prep or rigorously prep. I think having seen certain types of questions can help with understanding what they are asked to do. That said, after the exam my child said that she was not asked any of these types of questions. Moreover, she said she was asked to read which I didn’t prep her for, so she got a mediocre score on reading. This may be due to the fact that she had just turned five at the time of the exam while younger kids may not be asked to fully read. Reading is totally a teachable skill, and if I knew that this is what they expect, I would have probably prepped her for it. All I knew was that they are expected to be “reading-ready.” CPS doesn’t teach full reading in the PK grades, so I think it’s somewhat ironic that they are testing them on it (which goes back to the privilege some of us have to be able to teach our kids these skills at home).

    • #10807 Reply

      Kindergarten. R – 83, M – 85. Tier 4. Offered at Bronzeville. Any Bronzeville parents here? His sister goes to Skinner North so this is the opposite direction and quite inconvenient. Inclined to turn it down, but would love any feedback or insight on Bronzeville.

    • #10812 Reply
      Giant squid

      Tier 4

      rgc: 153

      math: 97

      reading: 92

      offered Edison.

    • #10813 Reply

      My son goes to Bronzeville for K now.  They have a teacher for STEM and for Humanities. They are both great and communicate well with the parents. The administration is awesome and very engaged. They offer after school free programs and paid. The building itself is practically two years old so that’s a plus. If you have any particular questions, I’ll be happy to help out.

    • #10815 Reply

      @momof2 thanks for that! Any concern with amount of physical movement/outside time that kids get? I have a very active 5 year old and am worried about him not being able to get his wiggles out. I have heard feedback that the space for play indoors and outside is limited.

      • #11087 Reply


        In regards to outside recess, they do have a small playground that they go weather permitting. If not, they have indoor recess. Another nice thing is that they have a gym and will have PE classes about 2-3 times a week. This might change next school year as they add two more classrooms.
        I also know that both K teachers have them do a physical activity as part of their class to get those wiggles out. They use GoNoodle a lot. With all this said, I never felt like my son was sitting at a desk all day long.
        Hope this helps.

    • #10818 Reply

      We were accepted to NTA and know very little about it / have not toured anything.  Tier 4, score 133.  I presume if we decline, we are unlikely to get offers elsewhere based on what I see above. Also offered Disney Magnet.  Anyone have any insight into NTA?

    • #10823 Reply

      Tier 4

      1st grade

      R: 99  M: 87

      RGC:  107

      Offered:  Poe 2nd choice


      I know 2 families at NTA and they are happy.

    • #10828 Reply

      R 99 M 98 Gifted 142

      Tier 4

      Test time 49 minutes at age 4 years 5 months

      Matched at Skinner North (3rd choice after Bell and Edison)

    • #10832 Reply

      Tier 4:



      No offers.

    • #10833 Reply




      Any chance for selective on 2nd round?

    • #10835 Reply

      Kindergarten – Tier 4:

      Classical: 98/93

      RGC: 117

      No offers.  We were not expecting an RGC offer anyway. It’s unfortunate poster with the 136 above wasn’t enough for a first round offer at Bell.  I guess with Coonley RGC gone, North Center students are competing for fewer spots.

      For those discouraged, our oldest had an 86/82 and 132 in kindergarten and didn’t get an offer but got 99/97 and 131 on first grade test and got a second round offer at Bell a few years ago with no prep.

    • #10837 Reply

      Tier 4

      R /M  85/68 RGC 125

      Offered Disney Magnet. Not sure will take it.

      Any hope with RGC 125?

    • #10839 Reply

      I was delighted to find out my incoming Kindergartener got an offer to Skinner North, our 1st choice. I have a 1st grader there now, and we have loved the administration, the teachers and the families.  It’s definitely a unique community with lots of diversity that is celebrated, and good outcomes for the kids.  If anybody has questions about Skinner North, feel free to reach out.  I know how agonizing placement decisions are on you and your family.


    • #10841 Reply

      @BoyMom – congrats. how many classes of kindergarten? And how many students per class?

    • #10844 Reply

      @lincolnparkmom – Assuming it stays the same as before, it’s 2 classes of 30 kids, so a total of 60 KDG students.

    • #10847 Reply

      Thanks much.

    • #10872 Reply

      Tier 4

      R 99 / M 89

      Gifted 135

      Offered Bronzeville Classical. Not sure if we will accept. Still hoping for Skinner our 1st choice.

      Any chance on Selective on 2nd/3rd/4th round ??



    • #10874 Reply

      Tier 4

      Reading 98 Math 98 RGC 130

      Test time 12 minutes

      Accepted to Decatur

      • #10883 Reply
        Chicago Born


        Tested in just 12 minutes? with those scores is great. I just had to comment because many parents get concerned about how long their child tested and correlation of test results.  It really does vary if your child was with the proctor for only 12 minutes.


    • #10877 Reply

      ps what’s your tier?

    • #10878 Reply
      Beatriz Frausto-Sandoval

      My sons is at NTA, RGC grade 2.  Daughter just got offered spot in K today.  It’s a great school.  Diverse, tight knit community, incredibly driven RGC teachers.  And neighborhood program and RGC are very interconnected, lots of opportunities for socialization with neighborhood.  We love it.

    • #10879 Reply
      Beatriz Frausto-Sandoval

      Sorry, thought I was replying to someone above who got offer at NTA and wasn’t familiar.

      RGC score 129 for my daughter.  With sibling bump, we got offer at NTA.

    • #10880 Reply

      R 99/ M 99

      RGC 154

      Skinner North accepted.

    • #10882 Reply


      I see that you asked about SN and SW on another thread. This is the main thread so I’ll post my answer here. I toured SN and SW. I think SN is a much better choice for the following reasons:

      1. SN has a principal that gave a logical and informative presentation at the open house. I also toured Lincoln Park Elementary, Edison, Decatur. The principal at SW stood out as the only principal among these schools who did not have good public speaking skills. She was repetitively stating “SW is great” without giving concrete details of why it’s great, except for saying she pushes her students with lots of homework. The presentation at SN actually did the exact opposite. She and a couple of teachers didn’t say SN is so great, but went into specific details of how the classes are taught with what curriculums they use. They spoke about the extracurricular activities, and parent involvements. I was mainly focused on the academics and I got a lot from the SN presentation, but basically nothing from the SW presentation.

      2. SN has 2 classes but SW has only 1 gifted class.  SN shuffles their students every year. I feel like interacting with more students can give all the students more perspective on life. (Edison also only has 1 class per year, Decatur has 1 or 2 classes per year.)

      3. SN only has tested in students. I feel like being surrounded by equals is is important for a young child. I don’t want her to be labeled as special in any way (like on school papers or the way people address her class) so that she doesn’t inadvertently feel pretentious (she might not, but just in case).

      4. From your username, you might live at Lincoln Park. SN is closer to you.

      Hope to see you next school year!

      • #10892 Reply

        Agreeing with the third point. That was the only reason why we ranked Edison over Bell. Both seemed great but I didn’t my child to be labeled. Being in a neighborhood school has a lot of advantages though and we really like Bell (e.g., their theater program seems amazing).

        As far as SN vs. SW, SW appears to be much more disorganized. From the classical school tours, I was most impressed with Decatur but ranked SN higher due to proximity to us.

    • #10891 Reply

      Tier 4 Kindergarten

      RGC 146

      Accepted at Edison (1st choice).

    • #10893 Reply
      Giant squid

      Wow! Amazing scores

    • #10894 Reply

      Can anyone comment on Hawthorne vs. Edison if you ever thought about it or had to make that decision? Or can anyone comment on the school bus experience from Lakeview to Edison and back?

      I really liked Hawthorne when I toured it and its close proximity to our home would help with logistics. Besides the academic rigor, its diversity (enabled by lottery) is a big plus.

      As far as I know, Edison teaches up to two years above grade level, and Hawthorne gradually goes to teaching one year above grade level. I think it’s amazing that Hawthorne gets kids from different backgrounds to that rigor which jives with my belief that you can teach anyone anything with the right resources.

    • #10900 Reply

      @HeNe. Many thanks for your detailed response. Sounds like very valid points. This is very helpful in making a decision. Missed the open house (had some issues juggling with two kids).

    • #10904 Reply


      No problem! Feel free to ask more questions. I totally understand juggling life with two kids!!!

    • #10905 Reply

      When does the second round school allotment list be announced?

      • #10912 Reply

        According to https://go.cps.edu/, these are the dates:
        JUNE 1, 2020
        Round 2 Application Period Opens

        JUNE 5, 2020
        Round 2 Application Period Closes

        JUNE 26, 2020
        Round 2 Results Released

        JULY 8, 2020
        Deadline to Accept/Decline Round 2 Offers

        JULY 13, 2020
        Round 2 Waitlist Process Opens

    • #10911 Reply

      Hi all! Can someone advice on how can I prepare my child for the test for Skinner North? It looks like whoever got in the school had great scores. Congrats! But, how did you prepare your child? Or what skills should I work on? Any advice would be great!

    • #10914 Reply

      Thank U

    • #10915 Reply

      Can someone explain round 2 to me!

      • #11045 Reply

        This is from https://go.cps.edu/elementary-school/learn

        ROUND 2 OFFERS

        Round 2 gives families another chance to apply to Choice schools via online or paper application to schools with available seats remaining. Families can apply to up to 20 Choice schools, even if they have already accepted a Round 1 offer or Round 1 waitlist offer. The start date for Round 2 will be released once it has been finalized.


        Similar to Round 1 waitlists, there’s a separate waitlist period after the Round 2 application period ends. Round 2 waitlists are a separate set of waitlists for the Choice Schools to which the student applied.

        If students applied in both application rounds, they could be on two separate waitlists. The student will be waitlisted until February 2021, unless they are issued a waitlist offer or proactively remove themselves from the waitlist. Students can only accept one waitlist offer at any time. Accepting an offer automatically declines any other offer received.

        All waitlist offers, regardless of application period, have the same 48 business hour acceptance window before the seat is forfeited.

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by chicagoschooloptions.
    • #10918 Reply

      Is there any chance of getting into a RGC with a score of 131?

    • #10921 Reply

      Is there any chance of getting into a RGC with a score of 131?

      – My friend’s daughter got an offer from NTA with a score of 131 and she is in Tier 3

    • #10922 Reply

      Regarding Edison v Hawthorne, we’ve spent time in both places and know families at both places. I don’t have the option (high-waitlisted with both kids at Hawthorne) but I would choose Hawthorne if I could. There are more opportunities for kids there (clubs, interests, community) and still offers a rigorous program in a very good neighborhood. The grounds alone are something I know kids just love and Edison is really lacking in outdoor play space.

      • #10955 Reply

        Thank you for sharing!

    • #10923 Reply
      Magnet v SEES

      it probably goes without saying, but if you have multiple kids, sibling preference for magnets is just huge. There is absolutely none in selective enrollment

    • #10924 Reply

      @BoyMom: Congrats! what is your tier and scores?



    • #10925 Reply

      We did no preparation, but our child is an early reader, she taught herself how to read before she turned 3. I think it is important to give them exposure to books, games from a very early age, from birth really. She also had lots of screen time, I think she learned from PBS Super Reader Super Why program 🙂 so, not all TV is bad for little ones.



    • #10926 Reply

      Did anyone get into McPherson?

    • #10943 Reply

      Offered Pritzker RGC for 2nd grade.  We are happy about her current school STEM Magnet? it is difficult for us to take a decison. any advice or suggestions on Pritzker school would be appreciated ?

    • #10948 Reply
      Chicago Born

      @YK21 what RGC did you apply to?

    • #10950 Reply

      Yep. 146 rgc, tier 4. Offered Mcpherson rgc,  which was our first choice.

    • #10953 Reply

      In the spirit of helping parents out for next year… curious regarding tier 4 acceptance scores scores for k for Pritzker and Bell.  I have not toured either school. Had one set up recently for Bell which was canceled due to covid. Hoping to tour in the fall if they will allow them. Not sure which one is more competitive, and/or parents like better. Proximity would lean us towards one, but both would be feasible.

      • #11249 Reply

        @Jennifer I think it’s tough to make decisions without being able to tour the schools, so I feel for you. For me, there is always a subjective component of “how the school feels” that goes beyond pure statistics of the school (which I have also studied in depth). Over the span of two years, I toured over 20 schools (a mix of RGCs, classical, magnets, neighborhood), in order to understand how CPS works and to make up my mind about the schools I would like to send my child to. And this does not even count the ones I sent my poor husband to tour (he thinks all schools are great and doesn’t believe in tours providing vital info). With that in mind, Bell, both RGC and neighborhood programs, is one of my top choices and I had a hard time deciding whether I like Edison or Bell RGC more. I can go into details why but none of them can replace the personal experience of “how the school feels.” I didn’t even put Pritzker on our RGC list because I like our neighborhood school more than Pritzker. In fact, I like a number of neighborhood schools more than Pritzker because of the way it feels. As far as which one is more competitive, I haven’t seen data on this but based on this forum posts, it seems that more people rank Bell over Pritzker (you can use the forum search function to check for yourself). That said, Pritzker parents on this forum are very happy with the school, so take my subjective opinion with a grain (or more) of salt. If you have any specific questions about the tours/schools, I would be happy to try to answer.

    • #10956 Reply

      I just came upon this WBEZ article on “Which CPS schools send the most kids to top high schools” and decided to share, in case it helps with anyone’s decisions: https://bit.ly/3dpjuIy.

      • #10964 Reply
        Giant Squid

        Hi LakeviewMom, I understand your child might go to Edison. We were offered Edison too. I would like to keep in touch with prospective parents.  You can ping me at flareplay at hotmail if you want.

    • #10988 Reply

      Tier 4


      Offered Bell (1st choice)

    • #11008 Reply

      @Robins, can I ask what tier and RGC score? I’m trying to gauge where the cutoff might be on non-K grades. Thansk.

    • #11011 Reply

      Is Skinner North possible with-

      Reading 94

      Math 95

      Tier 4

      • #11119 Reply

        It’s possible at a later round. Based on the experience with my 2 kids, the classical schools seem to admit based on the highest score among math and reading. A 99.3 90 will beat 99 99.

    • #11017 Reply

      First grade entry. R99 M90. Offer from Bronzeville. Any Bronzeville parents who can provide some insight? I am assuming the scores are not good enough to expect Skinner N or W in subsequent rounds.

    • #11021 Reply

      seems like this is very competitive. i have a kid who will probably appear for the test next year.

      wonder how many kids in total appear for the test at kindergarten level? anyone with an answer?

    • #11023 Reply

      Would anyone know how testing will be for this upcoming school year with the covid situation? Will there be a placement test at all?

    • #11035 Reply

      @ChiDad Yes, we reside on the south side.  We accepted the offer to Poe Classical for Kindergarten.

    • #11044 Reply

      Getting an offer to any of these elementary schools seems harder than getting into most colleges. We can calculate this years acceptance percentage to CPS classical and Gifted elementary schools ourselves:

      Assume each class has 30 kids

      Decatur                     30

      SN 2 classes              60

      SW.                              30

      Bronzeville                  30

      mcDade.                      30

      poe.                               30

      Edison.                          30

      Bell.                                30

      mcpherson.                   30

      Pritzker                           30

      Beasley.                          30

      Carnegie.                      30

      Lenart.                           30

      greenely                          30

      Pulaski                            30

      Orozco                             30

      total                                510


      The total kids who took the kindergarten classical or gifted program test was 3,500 – per the cps admissions letter this year.

      510/3,500 is a 15% acceptance-rate into the CPS Selective Enrollment classical and gifted Elementary Kindergarten class this year.

      I have calculated the average acceptance scores based on those who self reported below for each school. While not statistically significant, I think it would be reasonable for prospective parents to use those scores as a guiding tool for scores that are needed to get in for round 1.

      SN r: 99 m: 98 (6 self reported)

      Decatur r: 98 m: 98 (1 self reported)

      Bronzeville: r: 94 m: 88 (3 self reported)

      Poe r: 99 m: 90 (1 self reported)

      Bell 146 (1 self reported)

      Edison 150 (2 self reported)

      Pritzker 143 (1 self reported)

      Mcpherson 146 (1 self reported)

      NTA: 131 (3 self reported)

      Hope this helps!

    • #11047 Reply
      rgc interest

      Can you share any information or impressions you have on McPherson?  I didn’t tour and don’t have an idea of class size (28?) or teacher/curriculum stance

    • #11076 Reply
      UKVillage Mom

      @Momof2  My child got accepted to Bronzeville for Kindergarten.  We currently reside in West Town and we are concerned about commute time (I work in the Loop) and how drop/off pick up goes.  Also, what is expected for parent involvement after school?  We want to be invested in the school, but we also have a younger child starting PK-3 at a different school and are concerned about balancing this.

      And really, what I would like to know is whether an hour commute each day is worth the education he would receive at Bronzeville.  Any more talking up the school would be appreciated.

      • #11089 Reply

        I completely understand your dilemma. Our commute is 25-35 mins depending on traffic and was also a concerned of mine.
        For drop-off times, the earliest this school year was 7:30am. They have a special door for the carpool lane. They have staff helping the children off the vehicle and they walk into the building. Very good option in my opinion. We used it every day. They don’t let parents walk the student inside the building. So I didn’t see the need to park and walk them to the main entrance door.
        For pick-up, it’s at 2:40pm for K via their own door, so you park and they call them out once they see you. However, they have a very robust after-school program. There’s a free one that you sign up once a quarter called Eagles extra that went to 4pm I think. It is very limited in the amount of children that can participate, but it’s an option. Otherwise they have two paid options, one is a Spanish class via Living the Language school that ended at 5:30pm. Great program by the way, we had our son participate. And the other one goes up until 6pm and I believe you pay per day. Not sure on the details.
        As for the parent involvement after school, there are opportunities throughout the year to volunteer at student’s activities. Not too many but there are. They were always events that started at 6pm. Examples: movie nights.
        Overall, we love the school. The quality is of education is great and worth the drive for us. I think it all depends on how your neighborhood school has to offer.
        Also, have you considered bus transportation maybe?? Just a thought.
        Hope this helps.
        I also know that the principal is holding a virtual informational session and I’m sure you will be impressed with everything shared there.

    • #11094 Reply

      We attended the admitted parent open house for Bronzeville last night and were impressed.  We will be commuting from West of the city as well with a younger child at another school so I feel your pain @UK village mom but I think it’s worth it for us. Good luck!

    • #11105 Reply
      UKVillage Mom

      @Hpmama2020 We unfortunately missed the virtual open house this week but will attend next week.  After doing some more research, we will likely accept.  I’m encouraged that you were impressed!

      @Momof2 Thank you so much for your detailed response.  Sounds like drop off will be a breeze.  We will have him in an after school program that goes to 6 and the programs Bronzeville offers look amazing.  I also realized that the 1-on-1 time I’ll get to spend with my son in the car to and from school will be a great opportunity to communicate and make memories.  It changes my life, for sure, but it will probably make his so much better to be able to attend a great school and spend special time with his mom.

    • #11133 Reply

      RGC: 149

      accepted Edison (first choice)

    • #11134 Reply
      Kids need to have fun

      Tier 4 –  Accepted Skinner North (R99, M98)

    • #11154 Reply

      Going to be 1st

      R 99

      M 96

      Rgc 134


      Offered at beubien(2nd choice)

      I’m not sure if I should accept the offer.

      If i decline, is there any chance for Decatur (4th choice)?


      Going to be 3rd grade

      R 99

      M 96

      Rgc 132

      No offer at bell, beaubien,  coonley, Pritzker and Decatur

      Any chance for Decatur??


    • #11168 Reply

      Has anyone heard any mention of whether the RGC incoming class size for K is reduced this year? I understand that it is generally 30 but understand it may be reduced for the incoming class sizes as a result of last year’s negotiations.

    • #11171 Reply

      Which RGC are you referring to?  I thought for example Keller and Lenart RGC incoming K was at 28?

    • #11172 Reply

      Tier 4

      RGC 150

      Accepted Edison (2nd choice)

    • #11174 Reply
      Nwside mom

      Does anyone know if the K scoring rubric went up to 150 or 160 this year? I know historically 160.

      • #11190 Reply
        Giant Squid

        I believe 160; I’ve seen a score of 153

    • #11175 Reply
      RGC question

      MAMA, I’m assuming Edison was your second choice and a classical school was first then? Can we also include tier (I assume 4)?

    • #11176 Reply

      Just accepted the offer at beaubien

      Hopefully his brother may get an offer for another round..

    • #11182 Reply
      UKVillage Mom

      Just accepted at Bronzeville Classical for Kindergarten and declined the offer at Suder Montessori.

    • #11195 Reply

      Tier 4 and yes, our first choice was Skinner North

    • #11200 Reply

      Nwside mom, I read in a discussion forum somewhere that RGC score is out of 160 for entering K and out of 150 for future grades. I haven’t seen anything official to back this up, but just FYI.

      • #11202 Reply

        It is stated on the OAE letter, 160 for Kindergarten, 150 – all other grades


    • #11204 Reply

      Daughter got accepted to Beasley’s RGC but neighborhood school is a better school overall (Healy).

      Any advice on whether to accept Beasley or Healy? We were hoping for a different gifted program at the school she is at now but they only have a handful of seats left and I dont know if she’ll be offered one.

    • #11205 Reply

      There are quite a few kids in bronzeville with sibling at Skinner North, Lenart.

    • #11207 Reply

      Does anyone know if there are any chances of getting in through second round at skinner west or north ? My sons score are

      R:96 and m :94

    • #11208 Reply

      Likely Skinner North, but probably not Skinner West

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