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Concerned MomGuest
My 4.5 year old son was tested for both gifted and classical programs and his scores were quite low. He seems like a bright kid, so getting a score of 77 on gifted test got me a little worried (especially if it reflects his IQ). Is it normal for young kids to underperform, especially with no test preparation?
P.S. His reading score was 64 and his math score was 4 for classical part.
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hparkerGuest
If your perception of your child and your report of the scores are both correct, then a possible explanation is that, during the testing session, your son behaved in a non-cooperative manner. A math score of 4 would otherwise be hard to justify even without preparation.
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Concerned MomGuest
My son may be a bit spoiled, so being uncooperative would not be out of character for him. He has an expressive speech delay, so not sure if that also played a part in his low scores. Math score was definitely a big surprise.
Thanks for your reply hparker.
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jazzmanGuest
He probably didnt response or felt comfortable with his tester. I recommend a book called verbal math vol 1 and vol 2 great for classical test. Gifted test is more abstract thinking paper folding and puzzles, logic, mazes and etc..
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Concerned MomGuest
Thanks for your thoughts on this and for the book recommendation jazzman. I have been focused so much on my son’s speech and social skills that I didn’t pay much attention to anything else.
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jazzmanGuest
Its nuts we have to have a discussion or anxiety and stress for kindergarten ??!! I use to laugh and look at people strange for having these discussions. Now I have joined the ranks or mob. I already did this dance and about to do it again for Academic center. What are we doing??!!
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ChicagoBornGuest
Thanks for the verbal math book recommendation
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PreK dadGuest
If your child did early testing for kindergarden, can you share some information – Birth month, length of test and score? Trying hard not to interpret but my daughter was in the room for less than 15 minutes and I cant believe we have to wait until April to find out results. She has an April birthday, speech delay but knows how to read and solve basic math problems. But I can also see her guessing because she didn’t understand the question. Really hoping she has a chance at Skinner North.
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Chicago BornGuest
Great question on test time. How is everyone measuring test time start and finish? i.e. start from the time the child’s name is called, or when you can no longer see them when they walk off with proctor, or the time of your scheduled test?
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StreetermomGuest
My daughter was 4 and 9 months when she was tested in January. She was with the tester for 40 minutes (from when she left with the tester to when she came out).
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PreK dadGuest
I’m going by when I no longer saw them to when they returned. But I’m sure introductions, choosing a sticker and walking back took up a few extra minutes.
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ChicagoBornGuest
My child was with the tester for 33 minutes, timing from when I no longer saw them to when they came out. 5 years 0 months tested in January – birthday month.
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lincolnparkmomGuest
my son was 4 years and 5 months on the day of testing. he was with the examiner for 49 minutes (from the time he left to when i saw him coming out).
how does the time spent impact the final outcome? can anyone please share their experiences or hear say?
good luck everyone…
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PreK dadGuest
I don’t know that testing time has a direct correlation to test score. But it seems to be a decent indicator since the test ends when a certain percentage of questions are incorrectly answered.
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lincolnparkmomGuest
@PreKdad – I didn’t realize that the testing stops when a kid has x number of answers wrong. I guess it is a good way to have a similar landmark for all. If we go by that may be there is a different number of incorrect answers allowed for younger kids vs older ones???
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t.diddyGuest
I believe the test is different based on age.
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Chicago BornGuest
I have thought that children of certain age groups are compared to one another. For example 4y1m to 4y3m, 4y4m to 4y6m, 4y7m to 4y9m, 4y10m to 5y0m, 5y1m to 5y3m etc…
I assume since the 4y0m are not 4 by Sept 1, they may take a different test? I do not know. I know the students not 5 by Sept 1 test later in July. Or they just get more time to prepare since their test is in July. So they would be older like 4y7m (is that the age Dec babies are in July?). So July testers are 4y7m to 4y10mo (going backwards from Dec 2020 to Sept 2020 birthdays).
Can we assume a Sept 1st birthday is given the less difficult test or the besr algorithm for calculating their results if they take the test the first day CPS offers in Oct or Nov? I do not know when was the first test date? Anyone know?
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Chicago BornGuest
For clarity I mean I have thought children of certain age groups test scores are compared to one another
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lincolnparkmomGuest
testing starts in november so the youngest kid to appear for that calender year is 4 yr 3 months…
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Chicago BornGuest
Ok Nov is first test date. So a Sept 1 child can test since they are considered eligible for K since they will be 5 at the start of school. November test for Sept 1 is 4y2m right?
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ESGuest
Those who tested early and have their scores, is the highest score for math and reading 99 ot 99.9?
Can someone confirm if they received a score higher than 99? (I.e. with decimals after it)
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lincolnparkmomGuest
everyone will get their scores together in april… i believe…
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ESGuest
That is not true. Those who tested in November up to a certain date (I believe 22nd) for KINDERGARTEN, already have their scores.
Need to confirm if 99.9 or just 99 is the highest? Anyone?
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clrsGuest
From what I have seen and heard for the scores that came out December 2019, I have seen five 99s among kids I know, but I haven’t seen anything above 99. But I know on the letter they send out it says the highest is 99.9.
Why does the decimal matter to you ES? Which schools are you aiming for?
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ESGuest
Thank you for sharing, clrs! We are probably going to be ok with 99 to get into SN from tier 4, I was just surprised not to see 99.9 in Reading for my at the time of testing 4.9 y.o who officially reads at a 3rd grade level.
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clrsGuest
Hi ES, I see. I’d like to talk to you more about this. Please send me an email in this temporary email “[email protected]” that expires after 30 days. Sorry for being cyrptic. This website has no way to private message or delete previous posts.
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ESGuest
clrs, I e-mailed you, but it came back undeliverable. You can post your questions here and I’ll answer the best I can.
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ChicagoBornGuest
@ES, I understand why you are concerned with Tier 4 and trying for SN. I myself do not know any early testers either beyond 99. If you child had 99 in reading what was their math score?
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clrsGuest
I actually do not recommend the the Verbal Math Lesson books for the kindergarten exam. Even volume 1 is too advanced. If you read the reviews on Amazon it’s more for older children already in school. My child (with a fall birthday so on the older side) struggled with the volume 1 book and we stopped using it, but still scored a 99 on the Kindergarten math exam. I think the math you see on the common school workbooks are much better (I do not have a particular one to recommend).
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ESGuest
96
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jazzmanGuest
I actually do not recommend the the Verbal Math Lesson books for the kindergarten exam. Even volume 1 is too advanced. If you read the reviews on Amazon it’s more for older children already in school. My child (with a fall birthday so on the older side) struggled with the volume 1 book and we stopped using it, but still scored a 99 on the Kindergarten math exam. I think the math you see on the common school workbooks are much better (I do not have a particular one to recommend).
verbal math worked very well for me and my child and alot of other people I recommended it and they also got great results as well but again you know whats best for your child.
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lincolnparkmomGuest
i wonder if this corona virus scare will have any impact on when they will declare the results??? will see…
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